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Subj: Re: Episode 4
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 at 02:18:30 pm CDT (Viewed 154 times)
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 at 12:47:03 am CDT (Viewed 174 times)

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I thought it was pretty dire and rushed.

Resolution for the Wildings and Ghost as they head back beyond the, uh wall ruins.

Gendry is legitimised, Arya leaves him and goes to King's Landing with Sandor to set up Clegane bowl.

Bronn pops up to the North, threatens to kill Tyrion and Jaime who offer him Highgarden just like that.

The Dorne apparently is now supporting Dany, but that is the extent of it. No appearance.

Rheager is killed in an extremly lame sequence. Missiandre is captured.

Various tiresome dialogue with Missiandre killed and Dany getting more mad queen' which has to be spelled out to us several times with Varys impying he will kill her. Sansa also wanting Jon to be the true King.

Jaime sleeping with Brienne and then leaving her. They were together for one episode, leaving her crying.

Ok, factually I have summarised what has happened. But seriously, the writing and pace is horrible. Dany gets ambushed, she goes all other the realms in one episode. Varysopenly tells Tyrion he is going to kill Dany and wants Jon on the throne. Sandor and Arya ride to King's Landing, Jaime rides seperately. No doubt everyone will arrive at the same time.

When Rheagor died, it was done with such little impact that I didn't care. Drogan and Dany run I mentioned befpre the pacing is horrible.

Next episode willbe the battle, with Dany turning mad queen presumably, which will be the twist.

Also, such an unsubtle writing move over Tyrion. Cersei has told Euron that he has got her pregnant. Tyrion annouces in the parley that she is pregnant. Euron isn't that stupid to realise Tyrion must have known she was pregnant, before he slept with her. If Cersei had any brains she would kill Euron now. But, yeah, I suspect Tyrion has ultimately killed his sister here.

Edit - I would have MUCH prefered Rheagor to have been killed last week to be honest. It would have given last week's big battle much more significance, than just waste it away here. Euron could have still destroyed the other ship and endangered Drogan here. Unfortantly, now that Euron has heard Cersei tricked him, I suspect he will kill her (due to the little brother's speech) and he will be the big bad now next episode.

The series has changed a lot since season 5. Particularly in regard to plot armour which was an alien concept in GoT in the beginning. However, since season 7, everything feels very rushed. Like, it needs to end ASAP kind of rushed. S08 E04 is probably the worst episode in that regard.

The scene with Bronn was just retarded. Bronn threated Tyrion and Jaime into giving High Garden... as if it works like that. Bronn is supposed to be smarter than that. So is Tyrion. So is Cercei (She really trust Bronn to be her best chance at this considering the link he had with Tyrion and Jaime?!). Is this really GoT? Where is the dirty side of the show? Where is the you win or you die aspect of the show? Bronn clearly let them know that after all they went through, only money matters to him. Yet, he somehow expect them to treat him with honor once the crossbow is out of the way? The kind of thing he was asking for can't be obtained with a crossbow. Who wrote this? 

As for Jaime and Brienne, I'm sad it turned out this way as it completely nullifies Jaime's redemption arc. However, it isn't necessarilly bad. It is actually very realtable that he would fall back to his life long addiction. Sad, but relatable and it isn't nonsensical.

The other thing that nobody seem to have talked about and I always found very ducious was the Golden company accepting a contract for Cercei. They are well known for only accepting to fight favorable odds. When they accepted the contract, they knew the odds were horrible against Cercei. Sure the odds have now changed, but they were horrible. Why did they changed politic all of a sudden? Where they paid THAT much? This felt like plot contrivance to me. 

I hope Daenerys arc won't twist toward madness after all she went through, but that does look like this is where they are steering her. 

On a side note, in the face of Cercei using KL as a shield, I'm very surpised nobody think the best strategy would be to send an assasin. Where could they find an assassin capable of such a task I wonder... I mean, if you can deal with the NK and take the appearance of anybody, Cercei Lanister should be a joke, right? Nope, lets have a false dilema regarding the fate of the city because emotions and spectacle...

The series used to be about emotions, yes, but never at the expense of the head. I miss the old episodes even if the latest ones are individually fun to watch. Speaking of which, yes, I agree with you that Cercei should realize what it means for her to have that secret out of the bag like that in front of Euron. She still needs Euron, but she can't ignore what just explode in her face either.

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