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Subj: Re: Surviving and dying
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 at 11:06:26 am EDT (Viewed 583 times)
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 at 02:10:36 pm EDT (Viewed 594 times)
Quote:From a story standpoint, among currently living characters, who do you think should still be alive at the end of the show and who should die by the end of the show? I’m just going to focus on characters who have a chance of dying because some characters are just going to live so why speculate. I mean Lyanna Mormont is a fan favorite whose death would destroy the internet. She’s not dying. Podrick Payne and Gilly can’t die because killing them off would be like killing off a kitten. Meera Reed is effectively written off the show so we’ll probably never see her again so again, no death. But here is how I rank who could possibly die with those I think should live at the top to those I think who should die at the bottom:
Quote:1. Tyrion Lannister: The most beloved character on the show should live. Killing him serves no story purpose other than to be shocking for the purpose of being shocking.
Agreed, he should live.
Quote:2. Jon Snow: He and Daenerys are probably closest to being the main characters of the story. He’s already died once, so another death isn’t very meaningful. The show could kill him off but I don't think it should.
Hard to say. I can see the series ending with none of the major families intact ("I'm going to break the wheel"). I think Jon has a better chance than Dani.
Quote:3. Bran Stark: I can’t stand Bran post-season 3, so I’m loathe to say that he should live because thematically, the GOT universe needs a Three-Eyed Raven like the Marvel Universe needs Watchers.
Don't care either way. My hope for this character is they reveal the old man in the tree was also Bran.
Quote:4. Yara Greyjoy: A Greyjoy needs to survive the series, and Yara makes more sense from a story perspective to survive than Theon.
I like her but I think the Greyjoys are disposable. Wouldn't care if they all died.
Quote:5. Tormund Giantsbane: He’s the only real face of the Wildling people and so should live.
I like him too but he probably won't make it.
Quote:6. and 7. Arya Stark and Sansa Stark: Thematically, it wouldn’t be that shocking if one of them died, but if you ever wanted to do a spinoff series with some of these current characters, these two would make sense to be in that series.
I see them both surviving.
Quote:8. Brienne of Tarth: She’s gone through so much, she deserves to live.
Either that or a glorious warrior's death. If she survives I hope she and Tormund find love - his attention to her (and how it flusters her) is really cute.
Quote:9. Missandei: She’s one of my favorites so I don’t want her to die, but I could see the show killing her off after some Daenerys strategic mistake to push more hate onto Cersei.
I think Dany's whole entourage will die.
Quote:10. Gendry: He’s the last Baratheon even though he’s a bastard. He doesn’t have enough fans that killing him off serves any real dramatic purpose.
I want him and Arya together. Stark and Baratheon united at last.
Quote:11. Davos Seaworth: He potentially falls into the Lyana Mormont category of being too beloved to kill off, but his mortality is far more obvious. I think his death would feel cheap though, somehow too easy to milk.
I see him making it to the end in a narrator sort of way. He'd be the guy to say something wise while looking over a field of corpses to give us the moral of the story.
Quote:12. Samwell Tarly: He’s highly unlikely to die, but there’s a chance. His death would be extremely shocking and dramatic, but in terms of his dramatic function, he shouldn’t die.
Usually characters who choose books over swords survive. However, he did take his father's valyrian steel sword. The question is, will he use it, or give it to someone?
Quote:13. Bronn: Like Davos, his death would be powerful and painful, but somehow not fitting, but since he’s a warrior, not quite as manipulative.
I think he will die with Jamie. He's been on a similar journey - walking away from mercenary motives and heading towards a moral center.
Quote:14. Grey Worm: I don’t think he should die, but his death would be pretty powerful.
He will die with Dany's entourage.
Quote:15. Cersei Lannister: She will almost certainly die, but I think it would be more emotionally resonant if she lives and Jaime dies indirectly by her hand. She would suffer more by knowing everyone in her family is dead except her hated Tyrion.
It would be like this show to deny us the satisfaction of her death.
Quote:16. Theon Greyjoy: At this point, Theon has gone through so much suffering that killing him off wouldn’t be that big a deal, but he could die in a sacrifice that redeems himself more than he already has.
He will die, either to save Yara or to save a Stark.
Quote:17. Daenerys Targaryen: The show is known for major characters dying. Of the really big ones remaining – Daenerys, Jon, Arya, Sansa, and Tyrion – Daenerys dying makes the most sense from a dramatic point of view – someone big dies before the Night King and Cersei are taken down. Jon’s already died, Tyrion and Sansa aren’t warriors and so aren’t so likely to be in a position to die, which leaves Daenerys and Arya. Between those two, Daenerys has more dramatic stakes in the main story.
Since they've revealed that Jon has a stronger claim to the throne, Dany unfortunately is now superfluous. It only remains for the truth to come out about Jon, and then Dany is set for the big death of the season.
Quote:18. Jaime Lannister: Jaime’s entire storyline is about finding the honor that alludes him. He could find it in a good death.
Yup, my guess is he will die honorably.
Quote:19. Melisandre: She’s already supposed to die by her own prophecy and it’d make sense given her responsibility for Shireen’s death, one of the most outrageous deaths in the series.
I want to see Davos kill her.
Quote:19. Varys: As Melisandre prophesied, he’s going to die. Might as well show it.
I want to see a showdown between Varys and Qyburn. Varys should outmaneuver him in the end and survive (Qyburn dies).
Quote:20. The Hound: Story-wise, it would make sense if he dies in the process of killing his brother, especially fighting at Arya’s side.
Yeah, I'd like to see him die while defending Arya, and then Arya revenges his death.
Quote:21. Jorah Mormont: His unrequited love has nowhere to go now that Daenerys and Jon are together and so his death will add to his tragic end.
Quote:22. The Mountain: He’s got to die. It’s a given. The main villain’s right-hand always has to buy the farm before the end of the story.
I hope so. He's always had the personality of a slug, even moreso since they brought him back as Frankenstein's monster.
And a lean, silent figure slowly fades into the gathering darkness, aware at last that in this world, with great power there must also come -- great responsibility!
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