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Subj: Re: The day the music died ...
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 at 05:17:20 pm EDT (Viewed 111 times)
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 at 12:03:40 pm EDT (Viewed 140 times)



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    Diversity is a good thing, so long as the diverse characters have flaws they need to overcome. The problem comes in when these diverse characters aren't allowed to have flaws, because any flaws in such a character is equated with bigotry in the writer.

I would agree that assessment. But is that writing flaw present in all current network TV writing or just on Kurtzman's Star Trek efforts? I wonder if the spinoff shows as they grow in number will have more direction from people other than Kurtzman and will be better for it?

I was looking at Rottentomatoes scores. Season 2 has like 90% critics and 36% audience. But there's a blurb at the top saying "critical consensus is that this season fixed problematic storylines from the original series while doing new stuff" and I thought what original series storylines did they fix or even address? The Talosians were referenced. What else? Who writes this stuff?



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    These diverse characters aren't allowed to have any of those flaws, because giving them those flaws is viewed as a negative stereotype, so they come across as very flat, and bland. They can only express feelings and viewpoints of infinite nobility in a tone of heavy sacred reverence.



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    In fact, the only character allowed any flawed complexity, Saru, is an alien played by a white guy. Not surprisingly, he's also the most interesting character on the show, and the only one who has any real character arc.

It's interesting that in Season 1 Saru was the one always telling Burnham no and from what I've seen of S3, he's telling Georgiou no quite a bit. Mansplaining to her what Starfleet ought to be. He seems to have fared pretty well given the environment.

Which is why it was jarring when he was reunited with Burnham he instantly deferred and almost handed her the Captain's chair until she said "No, Saru, you're the Captain!" It's like duh ... I keep forgetting if she even holds rank. I know she was initially kicked out of Starfleet but I think she eventually got some rank back. I think they called her Commander at one point.




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