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Subj: Re: Eyes Wide Shut (1999) [OLD SPOILERS]
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 at 07:28:53 pm EDT (Viewed 49 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Eyes Wide Shut (1999) [OLD SPOILERS]
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 at 02:39:42 pm EDT (Viewed 54 times)

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A guy got involved in something wild (Hooker died, maybe linked to her helping him), looked for a conspiracy, and the investigation went no where.

Yet there were questions, ..., stuff left unanswered, ....

These were movies of the 60s and 70s. Down with Establishment! What are they not telling us? Be rebellious. Question authority! Worked back then, great to watch back then, during THAT TIME. Or great to watch maybe 2 decades later. But so much of the world, our thinking, our taste have changed since then.
With X-files, there came people screaming conspiracies from building structures to people in government to restaurant planning. Now it's just unfounded rambling.

So, with Eyes wide shut, Conspiracy became a bunch of coincidences and happen-stances.

And the nudity, ...everything there was shocking, arousing, exciting, ...if shown during the 70s, ...but it's just ho-hum nowadays (Internet ruined the rebellious and titillating effect).

But I'm not one to hinder movie making. I want NC-17 adult movies, I want family movies, ...and I want up-and-coming movie makers to take this medium and make it better. Tarantino made a Western movie interesting and fun to watch, so others can do that for thriller, rom-com, sci-fi, animation and sexy movies.

I guess even in a 60s or 70s movie about a cult or conspiracy I would expect either the hero uncovers something even if he can never prove it, or he doesn't uncover it because he's on the run and barely escapes. Here it seems like neither, much lower stakes. Titillation like you said. The appearance of danger without the danger. Which must be the point. Like the main characters think about cheating on each other but don't. Everyone is too timid. Which is strange because Cruise's character takes a few risks.

I must be a little too used to this, like you said, if I didn't even know if it was NC-17 or R. Maybe they are more or less the same now. Or every movie with nudity and sex is released theatrically with an R and Unrated for home release.



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