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Subj: Re: Here's what's wrong with movie making in Hollywood.
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 at 04:10:49 pm EDT (Viewed 62 times)
Reply Subj: Here's what's wrong with movie making in Hollywood.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 at 09:17:36 am EDT (Viewed 89 times)

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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/dark-phoenix-bomb-suggests-marvel-has-reboot-work-cut-out-for-it-130000228.html


So here we have 'creative' people in Hollywood contemplating how to fix the mess made with the Fantastic Four and X-Men. Words like 'formula' and 'diversity' and 'vision' are trotted out, indicating that the executives have no idea how to make a good movie. Even when the source material is right there for them to read. They could even consult the fans, if they weren't so imperious about their jobs. No where in the article does it mention the folly of hiring the same writer to butcher the same story line twice (Kinberg). Or the stupidity of portraying biological siblings as coming from different ethnic backgrounds, TWICE (Fantastic Four). The blame always goes to vague concepts like viewer fatigue with the franchise (which is hard to justify given super hero comics have had a loyal following for decades).

To integrate them successfully into the Marvel Universe, here's what they should do:

Fantastic Four: Don't shoe-horn minorities into the cast. The FF is a family, every identifiable group doesn't have to be represented. If they want a minority so bad, then remind the audience that Ben Grimm is Jewish. Reed is an alpha male, not some dork who's into science. Hollywood seems to be hooked on the stereotype that scientists have to be socially awkward and incompetent. Reed leads the team, authoritatively. Dr. Doom is a dictator from Latveria, and he wears battle armor. No changes to his origin. He's a megalomaniac. Period. And Galactus isn't a cosmic gas formation. Once that's established, hire a writer/director who knows a thing or two about science fiction. The movie won't be a success if the director's only experience has been making romantic comedies.

The X-Men. Don't reinvent the wheel. Start with the original team, which would build Cyclops' reputation BEFORE Wolverine shows up. If Wolverine is there from the start, then the movie becomes WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN. I'm not interested in watching a movie about a team of one guy. Let Wolverine be introduced as a solo project, and free the X-Men to actually engage in character development for the others. Use the comic book cast and timeline. Don't deviate from a successful story. The Dark Phoenix story doesn't have any emotional weight if no one knows anything about Jean Grey, and Cyclops. And for God's sake, don't take that idiot woman's advice from the article above, and rename the X-Men to something more inclusive to women, and make the team female-centered, and change their purpose to being explorers. We don't need yet another executive who doesn't understand why the X-Men are popular.


I honestly think most of this has more to do with movies in general than anything else. The more studio involvement with nearly any movie, the worse it is probably going to be. Just the way it is.

I am not sure diversity or anything else has much of an impact. It will make fans upset to varying degrees but it is not a problem to end all problems nor a solution. It is just there. If you have a good script, actors and director than you will probably be ok, even if there are iffy moments.

The x-men movies and the FF movies (for the most part, but particularly the last one) have not had good scripts, have been all over the place in quality and directors are bad.

True for any type of movie, comic, superhero or not.

They could easily make Ben originally a black guy and then have him turn into a rock monster and who would know it. I am not advocating that. I thought it was stupid what they were going for in the last FF film. I am still not even sure what that is.

Galactus is trickier to do. I love the character, but a giant pink and purple guy is probably going to be harder to depict than some of the other guys. Dr. Doom, there is no excuse for doing him wrong. Honestly, I would love for him to be a major baddie in the movies, he easily should be. He should be involved long before the FF are introduced, IMO. They can come in when his plan is going off.

IMO, he makes more since than Norman Osborne. At least from a comic significance point of view.




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