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Nathan Summers

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Subj: Re: Clive Barker's Hellraiser
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 at 03:01:38 am EST (Viewed 139 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Clive Barker's Hellraiser
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 02:39:30 pm EST (Viewed 133 times)

    Not sure, it has been a while since I have read a Hellbound Heart.

Me too, but remember loving the cover to that novella.

    From what I remember, the Scarlet Gospel's do not cover it either.

You're correct.

    Given he made a way to attract beings from one version of Hell, it seems reason enough.

But that would mean his judgers finalising the sentence were fully aware of what he had done, and is it fair to expect they had that level of nouse/ insight into what the box really contained?

    In the films, LeMerchant is rarely mentioned outside of references to the box. Other than the fourth film, Hellraiser: Bloodlines that deals with him and his family directly. It is a messy film (although better than what follows). He is not imprisoned in that film.

Yep. I'm somewhat of a purist when it comes to the films and only recognise as true continuity what was presented in the eponymous film and none of its sequels.

    That said, what Barker intended in the movie series starts falling apart after the first film.

I remember (hence my executive decision above).

    The second one is very good.

I agree but I just couldn't endorse it as canon.

    And in the Hellraiser comic Barker expanded on that mythology through the first bit of the run.

I missed those. How so?

    Although, there are more than the puzzle box in those comics. They each call to different centobites or different beings.

Did you know the original identity he intended for the Hell Priest (aka Pinhead)? Clue: it wasn't Captain Elliott Spencer. There are clues in the original novella but more importantly the film, and when I proposed them on a forum years ago, Clive personally reached out.

Read more of my theorising here:)
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