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Subj: Re: So lets say BBC realizes their gross mistake and wants to reset the show
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 at 08:22:36 am CDT (Viewed 125 times)
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 at 07:34:17 am CDT (Viewed 153 times)

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Yes a major rethink is needed, similar to back in the late 80's when Hasbro was forced to rethink things and do a major retcon/revival for Optimus Prime as the concept of Rodimus Prime failed due to bad execution and the trauma of the kids that saw Op die.

Doctor Who is now in a similar position. The concept of a female Doctor worked on paper, but the execution in terms of story and chemistry with the cast has failed. A female Doctor might have worked if they perhaps went more like how Sarah Connor was in T2, all action or Sigourney Weaver in Aliens (Alien 2).

But they didn't. Then they give us this whackadoo story about the Doc always being a woman and retconning the core concepts. THAT is where fans of both original run, and relaunch era Doc 9 to 12 can say they have been traumatized. Not because Doc is female now but because of the stories.

So, 13 is indeed an unlucky number for the franchise. One almost thinks they are doing this story based on that she is #13 and that #14 will bring the luck back, but I dont think Chibnall is that clever, and I say this having rewatched the first season of Doc 13 and will not watch the second season again.

However, IF this was revealed to be some crazy scheme of the Master, Rassilon, Valeyard, or the Black Guardian or some combo thereof then that would be going back to the continuity and history that we remember and love and could restore things.

The White Guardian did warn Doc 5 that in the future Doc would have to fight the Black Guardian again. The Black Guardian loves acting through agents, can appear in whatever form he wants, and is a master of deceit.

Black Guardian as the prime opponent in all this would make sense. If the Black Guardian was using the Master as his agent that would also make sense. Perhaps they have obtained the Key to Time and are messing with time and history on a universal scale and the White Guardian is powerless to stop them and needs Doc 13 to wake up and realize things.

Chibnall is rewriting the series, but the Black/White Guardians and Key to Time can be the big red reset button.

OR: Doc 12 in his last fight with the Cybermen was taken captive and is plugged into their systems where they are trying to get his knowledge and the whole Doc 13 thing is a massive Matrix-style construct they are using to keep him occupied.

OR: The TARDIS has revived Doc 12, he is going through his previous personalities after awakening and does refuse to change and the White Guardian is showing him how things COULD go if Doc 12 doesn't cheer up a bit and regenerate. Perhaps as a warning that the Black Guardian is messing with him. Then Doc 13 wakes up to reality, and it turns out that 12 hadn't regenerated yet, that his meeting Doc 1 was actually arranged by the White Guardian so that Doc 12 could get his mind right, and then Black Guardian stepped in and had been messing with Doc 12's mind and that whole era of Doc 13 and all adventures/retcons were a giant illusion by the Black Guardian.

Only Rassilon would have motivation to attack the Doctor, the rest of Gallifrey was grateful to Doc 12 for saving them in the Time War.

The Death of Doctor Who is clear to see yes, but the process is still ongoing. Even though the BBC and Chris Chibnall were convinced that their vision for the character and the series was going to win all-new audience demographics of minorities and young girls who were apparently turned off by the series featuring a leading man rather than a woman their logic and professionalism has been shown as being completely lacking in the event - as not only did those demographics never turn up, it is quite clear they never. even. existed!
But that's just one aspect. The colossal fall in the ratings and public support throughout the first season and then the second season is unprecedented for any past new Doctor and Producer, here Chris Chibnall and Jodie Whittaker must both shoulder the blame as neither have been remotely good enough to ever make Doctor Who a success. When the standout person on the team turns out to be light-entertainment host Bradley Walsh it is time to pause and reflect on the reasons as to how and why that can be... the hard fact being he has shown to all that he is simply THAT good an actor and professional talent that he has shown the utter inadequacy and lack of passion and investment in all those around him - out of the lot of them he was the only one putting the effort in. And that's what shined through on the screen. He delivers a complete performance, an actors performance. A true character actor at work.

But all of that aside the reality is that this regime has nowhere to hide from its responsibilities. The BBC, Chris Chibnall, and Jodie Whittaker, they all must take the blame for killing Doctor Who.
Their choices and their lack of ability is what has been responsible for a near total collapse in support for the series both at home and overseas, and it is still ongoing. Just TWO seasons in and the series has not yet bottomed out, or even reached the bottom! By the time Chibnall and Whittaker do leave the series they steered and boasted about in the run-up to series 11, it will be beyond saving, as quite clearly there will be insufficient support or ratings to sustain its viability or allow a resuscitation by that point.

And it is all on them. All of them.

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