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Late Great Donald Blake 
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Karl

Member Since: Tue Feb 08, 2022
Subj: So then you don't really have any problem with people voting for Trump, right?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 at 10:21:41 am EST (Viewed 184 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So where did you guy's stand on the Rogan / Young Spotify war?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 at 08:20:53 am EST (Viewed 172 times)

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    Twitter isn’t exercising a damn thing other than arbitrarily censoring people based on politics and Nazism.


Well, that is not true. They are exercising their first amendment rights.

Along with the right to speak freely, a person has the right not to speak. That right carries over to publishing and platforming.

They have the right to decide who they do or do not publish.

You are allowed to exercise your rights arbitrarily or even stupidly... I would argue that it is very much both those things... yet they still have the right to do so.

Stupid as the decision was, they have the right to refuse someone based on their own political views.

Disagreeing is the right response. Wanting to smash the monopoly is the right response.

Claiming they are not exercising anything,when they are clearly doing so with the rights people are claiming to lose is just laughably foolish.

It is not their fault all their users, regardless of political persuasion, never stopped to wonder why the TOS was so vague. It is so you agree to let them kick you off when ever they want. All social media sites do this. Silicon valley is scummy.




Not trying to sound rude or provocative here, but I'm curious about everyone's sort of demuring when the question of whether to deplatform Rogan and constraining the larger conversation to an issue of rights. It seems like a red herring to me. In otherwords of course no one is infringing on anyone's individual rights (precisely) but the question is whether or not that's a good idea, not whether the various actors are breaking the law. There are greater issues of cause and effect, and of the motivations of some of the people involved.


For the liberals in the room: people absolutely have the right to vote for Trump I'm sure you'll agree, that doesn't mean we don't have very extensive conversations about how we think that's a very bad idea. When Trump runs again will we just say, "oh yes, they have the right to vote for whom they want. Nothing really left to discuss then."

With any political issue there are several valences to view it from. I'm curious in issues of deplatforming; I have to wonder why liberals are constraining so much of the conversation just to whether people have the legal right to censor.


cheers,
---the late great Donald Blake


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