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Thurisaz




I know the books didn't have this either, but man, I would have loved to seen that scene. So similar, so loyal, so different. They are two sides of the coin.

Looking back that is the one scene I would have wanted to see the most.


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Drax the Legend


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Shock value does not really age well. The entire series would have still been equally interesting (more so, I could argue, especially for revisiting), if it actually tried to "play it straight" and not just write off major characters early on. Martin somewhat understands that he has to actually make something out of those kills and try to introduce "replacement characters" that will carry the story, but knowing a lot of the things that we now do, I can't help but feel that having kept important characters of various factions alive for the long run would have been a more fulfilling and possibly easier way of weaving his tale (he might not have written himself into that corner, for one \(fear\) ).

Drogo should have actually invaded, we should have gotten the reveal of Jon's parentage with every major player alive, pitting Robert against Ned, seeing Catelyn's reaction to the secret, Robert should have learned about "his kids", etc. The tale would still end up being about betrayals, rebel kings and civil wars while common threats loom around, with a lot of events remaining more or less the same (and we could have been spared the positioning of Joffrey and Ramsay into the forefront).


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zvelf


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Nah, then there would be nothing to differentiate it from any other story. While your version would be interesting, GRRM's version is more so because it's far more original.


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Unstable Molecule


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... and their meeting pre-dates the murder of Jon Arryn. Ned and Tywin were both part of the siege of King's Landing during Robert's Rebellion. Pycelle opened the gates to let Tywin and his army into the city, and the original sack of KL began. Then Ned rode into the city, made a beeline for the Red Keep and found the King dead and Jamie Lannister on the Iron Throne (physically only).

In the moments and days that ensued, culminating in Robert getting chosen as King and Cersei being chosen as Queen - Ned and Tywin would definitely have met and contributed to the eventual decision to crown Robert.




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Thurisaz




It happening off screen and never being referenced really doesn't do much good.


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Drax the Legend


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You just been following a third one that cranked up everything that was wrong with Martin's to 11 to keep being "different", "original", imploding and ruining the entire thing at the end...


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zvelf


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    You just been following a third one that cranked up everything that was wrong with Martin's to 11 to keep being "different", "original", imploding and ruining the entire thing at the end...


Well, too much of anything is bad, but what they did with Martin from seasons 1-4 was make one of the best shows on television ever. Season 5, 7, and especially 8 was a drop in quality, but season 6 was still excellent.


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