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JesusFan


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Would you be ok with them just dropping Superman as he has been shown, and have instead main Supes Clark kent be a Black superman?

Or keep Clark kent, and have the black Superman be either the president Obama version, or else one of E2?


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The Black Guardian

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I don't really think DC is ready for all that it entails. But I wouldn't mind it.

I'd rather see a Blue Marvel Hollywood project.




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bd2999

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I am skeptical of it honestly unless it is from another reality really. Doing just to do it looks more desperate than anything to me, but in general they have not done well and they probably need to take risks now.

I am not sure they ever fully recovered from the JLA mess though. I have not seen the new Suicide Squad yet and maybe it is good but even not the non Znyder stuff has been weird. WW84 was not good.




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JesusFan


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Just do not want them to gte to the place where must wipe out all prior Superheros due to them just being white males, as marvel seems to have been bent on going!


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zvelf


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    Just do not want them to gte to the place where must wipe out all prior Superheros due to them just being white males, as marvel seems to have been bent on going!


This is a preposterous statement. Marvel is wiping out all of its white male heroes? Then who are these people?

Ant-Man
Bucky Barnes
Dane Whitman/Black Knight
Doctor Strange
Hawkeye
Hulk
Ikaris
Spider-Man
Star-Lord
Thor





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bd2999

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Marvel has alot of such heroes, not sure where you are getting that.

Considering the leads have all been white guys for the last near 20 movies it seems a wild statement. Adding additional characters is hardly a bad thing.

Even with the upcoming Thor movie it seems with the multiverse situation that Jane Thor may just be an alternate realities Thor rather than the main universe Jane. That is speculation on my part though, but Mjolnir is gone.




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JesusFan


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Maybe not wiping them out, but are changing many of them, and just wonder what the push back would be if the new Black Panther became now the "white Panther?"


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Zelandoni 

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I have to agree with JF here. At one point, not too long ago, Marvel did try to replace it's main white male heroes in the comics.

Wolverine was replaced by X-23, a girl
Hulk was replaced by Amadeus Cho, an Asian boy
Cap was replaced by The Falcon, a black man
Iron Man was replaced by Riri Williams, a black girl
Thor was replaced by Jane Foster, a woman (with cancer)

All of this at same time.

The only book where they did it right was Spider-Man. Peter Parker got to keep his Spidey suit when Miles Morales got stuck in the 616 reality.

I really don't care what color, gender or sexual orientation a movie or comic book character is, but they should keep their hands off the classics. You can't just change or replace a character that's been around for 60 or 80 years. I find this very disrespectful to the character and to the fans.

So no, Clark Kent/ Kal-El was always a white male and he always should be. If they want to create another Superman of a different color or gender or whatever, fine. But that can't be Clark Kent, nor should he replace him.

If Black Panther would become White Panther all hell would break loose.
This reverse discrimination crap goes too far and has no place in fantasy universes like Marvel or DC IMO.


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JesusFan


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My main point is that we can have a black Superman. or a latino Spiderman, but God forbid we see a White Panther, seems like one way here fully!


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Vincent

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Superman belongs to DC comics and the movie studio who owns DC, and they could do whatever they want to Superman. ET belonged to Spielberg and if he wanted to change those police rifles to walkie-talkies,...so be it.
We're the CONSUMER, if we don't like it, ...don't see the movie.

My advice, ... find a VISION, find a storyline, a look, a feel, to make a SUPERMAN movie!!! Even with a Black Superman, if there's no vision, look, story, ...then it'll just suck like Superman 3, 4 and MOS.

That 78 movie, at one time the Powers-that-be wanted Telly Savales to say, 'Here's looking at you, kid', to Superman. Some line that made Kojak the top rated tv show at that time. There were talks to make it a satire, or a comedy, (There was talk of Muhammad Ali to play Supes), until Richard Donner came along and directed and made one of the greatest movies of the 70s.

You can't go back to the 70s, nudge nudge Superman returns, but you can make a Superman relevant to this time and thinking. Find a VISION for a good Superman movie.


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Vidar


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    Quote:
    Would you be ok with them just dropping Superman as he has been shown, and have instead main Supes Clark kent be a Black superman?



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    Or keep Clark kent, and have the black Superman be either the president Obama version, or else one of E2?



Why should he be male? Why not a woman in a wheelchair? Maybe a fish? Why just change his skin colour, why not make it even more 'diverse'.

Why do you see everything through the lens of skin colour? We have mythologies for a reason. Stop trying to subvert them. In fifty years will anyone be clamouring for a white black panther? No. Why should they?

Personally, if I feel the need to see someone black (which I don't, my brain doesn't work that way) I'd be more interested in seeing Falcon in a really good film - not that awful TV show. Or Panther, but not as a woman or white guy.

I've no time for race baiters.



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