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Todd Arliss


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Has anyone here seen it?

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I liked it. It was entertaining.

Interesting twist that the Skrulls were not the badguys but were sympathetic characters. I have no idea why they spoke and acted like humans complete with references to human pop culture.

The Kree were the badguys, but that's not too surprising because the Kree are often badguys in the comics.

Someone posted about how the push now is for women and minorities to be the heroes rather than white men, but white men can still be the bad guys. So here we have a white woman with her best friend a black woman and their ally a black man out to win the day against a group led by a white man. I neither approve or disapprove of this, but I couldn't help notice. It wasn't hard for me to root for Captain Marvel at any rate.

Can't tell much about Carol power-wise. She's got some level of super strength, some level of super durability, some level of EP, but no way to say she's more powerful than Hulk, Thor, or Iron Man.

Near as I can remember, Carol's life was never in jeopardy. Usually in action movies, at the end the villian has the upper hand on the hero, the hero is out of options until he's able to pull out the miracle win, and you are led to think he could die. I didn't worry about Carol's life the whole movie. We worried about her friend, Nick, the Skrulls, the Flerken, but not really Carol. Is that a message of some sort?

I really did NOT like the explanation for how Fury lost his eye. I never knew why Fury lost his eye in the comics, but I assumed he lost it in battle during WWII. It should have been lost in a much more heroic way with a lot more meaning behind it. It's like losing his eye was played for comedy! Bah.

About all I can remember for now.




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Vincent


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I was entertained, loved the movie, ...

So, the Marvel Male superheroes all got a BEEFCAKE scene in their Origin movies, ...RDj in a tanktop, Hemsworth walking out of a shower shirtless, and Evans stepping out of that Vita-ray cocoon-pod. So, it's only fitting that Larson should get a CHEESECAKE scene, ...a sexy leg or a bare-shoulder back torso, or something teasing and tasteful to imply that she's a beautiful woman scene. Only her in PJs.

Maybe in the sequel.


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The real Nick fury lost his eye in Ww2.

As to carol, about th only time she had any form of danger when when she was falling to earth, then her eyes light up and she basically has the RDJ "I can fly" moment from iron Man one

But as this was a prequel, well it is hard to build up suspense when we know the skrulls and kree won't wreck earth, that carol won't stay on Earth, that the tesseract will be in furys possession at the end, etc.

The movie does expand a bit on tesseract history. Howard finds it, his studies did lead to the arc reactor and new element that he couldn't create, then he ends up dead and project Pegasus gets the tesseract to study, then it ends up with Fury and is locked up until end of Thor one


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Captain Marvel is not bad and it’s not great either. I bunch it up with Black Panther, Dr. Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, and Wonder Woman (the best of the DCEU movies), all of which I found just satisfying enough in the movie theater but am on the fence about ever needing to see again.

Captain Marvel starts off poorly on Hala, which doesn’t feel alien at all but rather like a futuristic Earth except there are blue people too. The first action scenes are purely perfunctory. The movie doesn’t really pick up until Carol buddies up with Nick Fury around 30 minutes in.

Brie Larson is the best thing about the movie in my opinion, and she has a strong supporting cast so that means something. She just exudes a strong, funny presence as this sassy military woman. Samuel L. Jackson is good as a Nick Fury who is still inexperienced and hasn’t become the super cautious cynical spy yet. The CGI that de-ages him is impressive. For some reason, it’s much less effective on Phil Coulson who looks overly “Photoshopped” and evokes the uncanny valley effect. Ben Mendelsohn is very funny in a slapdash way as the Skrull leader. Lashana Lynch is excellent as Carol’s former best friend, Maria Rambeau, and mother of Monica. Monica is played amiably by a plucky Akira Akbar. I was very impressed that Monica makes nearly as much impact as Maria in the film, which is definitely setting up for the payoff down the road of her becoming Photon/Spectrum. Goose the cat is already famous as a scene-stealer.

On the other hand, Jude Law, Djimon Hounsou, Lee Pace, and especially Annette Bening are wasted. The most important part missing in the film is establishing Carol’s relationship with Annette Bening’s character and to make that much more meaningful. Also Carol not fighting Ronan hand-to-hand is a lost opportunity in my opinion since she’ll never have the opportunity again (unless it’s in a flashback). Since Jude Law plays Yon-Rogg, you know he’s the villain, but he’s a mediocre villain with no gravitas. That said, I liked his final face-off with Carol (even if it steals from Raiders of the Lost Ark).

Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck are not action directors and it shows. They’ve got nothing on the fantastically choreographed fights in the Russo MCU films or in Taika Waititi’s Thor: Ragnarok. The fights in Captain Marvel lack good rhythmic pacing (there should be an ebb and flow), a strong spatial sense of where combatants are in relation to one another, and are just edited poorly. The strong special effects partly make up for that, but not enough.





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Marvel dropped the ball with this one, but I’m sure given its box office they won’t be crying too much. Most of the reviews I read are also BS. I think the guy from the BBC (Will Gompets?) is the only vaguely accurate critique.

When all the virtue signalling, and big-up-the-girls messaging is done, it’s ultimately not a very good film. There’s a surprising dearth of characterisation, the performances aren’t generally great. Larson is completely miscast, ranging from blank to disinterested with an irritating voice, the action is poorly directed and the whole think feels very derivative, just not in homage. Oh, and there’s no climax either, unless you count the title forming over a space back drop as Branagh did with Thor – but much less effective, emotional or indeed relevant. In fact, it feels like a poor phase one movie or something made with Marvel’s IP but by Sony or Universal. The editing and score aren't great either. Unlike Ragnarok, Panther or even Ant Man & Wasp there's no flair or individuality to this film. Sadly, its UPS is its politics and that's about it.

Fury’s character is way out, Larson and Rambeau’s actor are completely miscast and Benning’s character is unintentionally hilarious, coming over all Hillary Clinton; I’m not convinced that subtext was intentional! Many, many opportunities are missed. The film desperately needed a much better interpretation of the the Skrulls (great acting in lead Skrull not withstanding) and there’s no adversary or task to overcome nor indeed a viable journey or resolution. The film’s shortcomings are evident throughout, as it feels there was a scrambling to get this out; that it was designed by committee. Even the oft cited ‘cat steals it’ is misleading. Trust me, it doesn’t. It’s an enjoyable romp that befits immensely from being a near-vital cog in Marvel’s Endgame strategy, but has actually now left me anticipating this upcoming landmark less, not more, something I didn’t think possible. The Avengers were named after Carol! Maybe they should’ve been called the Wokengers instead.

I don't think the film was hamstrung by its message, which is not subtle. It's just not enghanced by it either. Indeed, the film seems to have an odd moral compass. A chump trying to hit on (Dan)Vers gets his bike stolen, and that's a good thing. Sure, he's obnoxious but there's no narrative justification.

Ultimately, the film would've benefited immensely from a better script, better directors and Blunt or Chastain in the lead, with a younger Angela Basset as Rambeau. But then I realised that this might indeed be a clever subtext; average can overcome adversity. The single most impressive aspect was Jackson's de-aging, which was seamless.
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What can I say... It was entertaining, but not to the extend I'd be willing to see it again. To me it felt flat with a few bumps along the ride. 

I was never emotionally invested in any part of the story. I never feared for anybody. I never cared for anybody. And I'm a guy that is very sensitive.

I liked Brie Larson as a strong sassy and cocky woman. Sadly, she also lack the charisma of other actors that really fit their roles despite not being great actors (Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa for example). Having the character show a bit of vulnerability might also have made her more likable. She is always confident, determined etc. Not a lot of drama except her quest to find who she is (that doesn't seem to affect her much not to know).

As always, Marvel use of humor comes at a cost. The drama, again, and some characters (Samuel L. mainly). Unlike many, I laughed at the explanation for Fury's eye, but must admit such humor does lessen drama. Unlike GoTG, we aren't sure if the movie is a comedy. Also, despite being a comedy, I cared and cried in GoTG (told you I was sensitive). I believed in the birth of Starlord's romance with with Gamora, the friendship building among these misfits, the emotional scars of Starlord hidden behind a mask of comedy and recklessness... cared deeply for Groot's sacrifice. None of it in Captain Marvel. None. At. All.

I liked the Skrull ending up being victims of Kree oppression. I also liked, and laught, at the 1990 references. How time flies...

Despite not being too much, the political agenda of the movie was very (too) clear. So much so, that I felt the story was serving as a vehicle for the message rather than the message being in the service of the story. And I'm a left-leaning guy socially... I agree with the message, but the way you deliver it will matter and help or hinder the goal you say you are seeking. But this is a minor nitpick.

Overall, I had a nice evening, but I wouldn't pay for a second viewing of a rather boring hero that you don't care for in any way and that has nothing really epic to compensate.


 




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She was pretty hot in the NIN tee on that motorcycle. Rawr.




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It was okay. I enjoyed it more on the second viewing but that was because I was over the way that Brie Larson portrayal of the character.

The only question I have coming out of this movie is, what happened the 4th Skrull who landed on Earth?

I can account for three of them (Talos, Science and Dead Skrull) but it is the fourth one I can't. I have to assume it was Talos offing the poor sucker for taking the same form as him at the beach which makes Talos a unsympathetic character when the big reveal hits.

Oh well... probably a deleted scene for the Blu-Ray\Download.

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Just saw it for the second time tonight.

I enjoyed it very much. I would put it in the same grouping as First Avenger, Thor, and Dr. Strange as an origin film, but better than Ant-Man or Incredible Hulk. Only Iron Man is a truly great MCU origin film, imho.

Hope Captain Marvel 2 is more along the lines of Winter Soldier rather than Thor the Dark World, Iron Man 2 or Ant-Man and the Wasp.

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Vincent


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She was in a tank-top in the new Avengers Endgame trailer that was released last Thursday.

Interesting, ...a new Avengers Endgame trailer highlighting Captain Marvel after a week in theaters, ...before CM movie, only a poster and news online linked CM to Avengers. Kudos to Marvels' advertisement agency.




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Didn't the 4th Skrull become a Politician in the Avengers Kree-Skrull war??? In the Marvel books, Mr. Fantastic hypnotized 3 Skrulls to become Cows, and the 4th went on to become a US politician.

CM killed one that was on a train, another was impersonating Coulson in Fury's car (Later became the alien autopsy) and Yon-Rogg killed the 3rd Skrull in a shed.


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If she killed the one on the train, then why does she look so confused on the train platform? Also the shoulder grab of the man she suspects is the skrull after the train fight on said platform...

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I guess I have to watch it again


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I did not too long ago. My feelings on it are that I enjoyed the movie. It was an origin movie that was done pretty well. I had some issues here and there and am not sure if it was the directing or the acting in places.

It was not my favorite Marvel film by any means but it was solid. It is was not as bad as some want it to be and not as good as some others really want it to be. A fun movie.




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I suppose the thing that potentially bothers me, having not seen Endgame yet and only speculating, is that she has great potential to be the Sentry in the films.

I do not mean in terms of characterization but in terms of power. To me, she showed greater power than we have seen so far. Thor has had great feats, don't get me wrong, but she held a giant missle back in the air, tanked an explosion while laughing and then easily destroyed ships that took all of Xandar and the Guardians to down in the end.

I liked her movie, I just am not sure I like the general characterization in terms of power. Does not have any impact on my enjoyment of this movie, but I am a little concerned, for nerd reasons, going forward.




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