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Okay, so some news on the possible Season 13 may have leaked from the BBC. Please note that at the moment these are JUST RUMOURS, and should be treated as such unless and until something more concrete surfaces.

However, these new 'rumours' apparently come from the same source who broke the news that Season 12 would retcon the origins of both the Doctor and the Time Lords, and that the Doctor would be revealed to have started life as a female. So they can't be entirely dismissed out of hand.

1) While the BBC are entirely happy with the narrative developments over the last two years, they're extremely concerned with the rapid and severe ratings decline. Discussions have been underway for some time regarding how to reverse the decline, and as such, pretty much every aspect of the show is up in the air right now.

2) Recording of the new series was scheduled to begin in September 2020, but now looks likely to be pushed back to early 2021. (This isn't much of a shocker given the head of BBC Wales' recent statement).

3) This will definitely be the last series for Chris Chibnall, Jodie Whittaker and probably all three companions. Now, we already knew that Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole were leaving, and it's been strongly rumoured for some time that Chibnall and Whittaker wouldn't be renewing their contracts, but it now seems that the BBC are considering dropping Mandip Gill as well and starting fresh if another series is commissioned.

4) The next round of recordings are likely to contain the same number of episodes (10 regular plus 1 x Special). However, they're considering splitting the season into two parts.

The first part will air either spring 2021 or autumn 2021, with the second part airing either autumn 2021 or early 2022. Possibly all episodes will be held back until 2022. It all depends on when shooting actually starts.

This leaves the placement of the special up in the air. If they decide to air all ten episodes in 2021, then it'll go out on New Year's Day 2022 and be the last story of the Whittaker Doctor.

If they split the series over 2021/22 it'll probably go out January 1st 2022 (Halfway through the series), but it may be held back for transmission on January 1st 2023.

5) They're considering halving the number of episodes per season.

This is potentially a biggie. Basically, what it means is that while all 11 episodes will be shot in one continuous recording block, if they decide to split it into two, the first batch of 5 or 6 will go out as Season 13, and the second batch of 5 or 6 (Depending on where they place the special) will go out as Season 14.

Why is this big news? Because doing it would help the BBC fulfil their contract to HBO Max quicker. After 'Season 14' airs, the BBC would only have to deliver a further 5 new episodes and their obligation regarding Doctor Who is done.


So what happens after 'Season 14'?

It's anybody's guess at the moment. If they want Doctor Who to continue, 5 episodes would be a good testing ground to see if a new Doctor and a new approach is viable.

If they're considering ending the show, then they just have to figure out how to fill 5 episodes without Jodie Whittaker. They MAY go with a brand new Doctor. On the other hand, they may opt to bring back an earlier Doctor. If that's the case, then my money would be on Jo Martin. Just give her the ball and let her run out the time on the clock.


Of course, all of the above is dependent on Doctor Who coming back at all in 2021/22. I'm still half convinced it won't, but these new rumours certainly seem like the BBC are trying to figure out a way of resting or ending the show quietly and inexpensively as possible while fulfilling their contractual obligations.

Stay tuned.


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Chibnall and the BBC have sacrificed great storytelling for political correctness and moralizing. If there's to be any Doctor Who with a strong turnaround in ratings, the solution is to look to the past to see what made the most memorable stories stand the test of time. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that will happen.

I only wish they would consider doing a series or two featuring Paul McGann's Doctor for the fans that would like to see a bridge between the classic era and the reboot. However, I think the BBC would manage to mess that up as well.



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    Of course, all of the above is dependent on Doctor Who coming back at all in 2021/22. I'm still half convinced it won't, but these new rumours certainly seem like the BBC are trying to figure out a way of resting or ending the show quietly and inexpensively as possible while fulfilling their contractual obligations.


Probobly so i agree. Chris Chibnall eying up his exit strategy would be no surprise, his primary concern as with Whittaker is career, he has made his indelible mark on Doctor Who and there is no profit staying any longer than his contract will allow him. To be fair though despite only doing three seasons he will have been on the show for near enough five years come next year, the gaps between seasons are getting longer and longer...

What else is there to say by this point?

All I can say is that we have reached the point where entropy is in effect with the series, there are no surprises in Doctor Who anymore.
No one can be surprised that Jodie Whittaker is leaving, she's done three series' and made her mark
No one can be surprised that Chris Chibnall is looking at his exit strategy, he too has made his mark and made sure it is both indelible and Unforgettable.
No one can be surprised that the BBC is nervously considering its options after gambling the Silver on Jodie Whittaker and Chris Chibnall's talents and finding both them, and their own utterly misguided preconceptions on what the audience might be for it, were astronomically way off their expectations. To the extent that they may have just lost the Silver and killed the golden Goose while they were at it...

After The Timeless Child retcon where is there left to go with this character, and this show? How do you surprise the audience anymore when you just revealed the origin?
When Jodie Whittaker does depart the next Doctor will be black. I don't think the bookies will even take bets. So where is the surprise? How do you possibly surprise the audience when the audience sees in advance because they are now all too familiar with your thought processes and decision making?

Yes. There are no surprises from Doctor Who anymore... how can there be by this point, it all feels very stale, and very very predictable by now. \(wilt\)



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JesusFan


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lers gets david or matt back,m in order to do De Who movies!


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JesusFan


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the only real hope would be to have someone like Idris Elba as Black dr!


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I would rather see them stop tv shows, and move the Dr to movies!


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No chance for David or Matt. Their Doctors don't have the correct equipment.

The Doctor is female now. That's the way the BBC want it. The chances of a male getting the part again are practically nonexistent.

Even if they decide to license a big budget feature film they'll insist on a female Doctor.

That's just the way it is now.


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JesusFan


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Wonder if Gail Gadot wants to play the CDr?


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Quoyle


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The only surprise that can win back the fans is bringing back David Tennant. Sorry but it has got that bad. Its an SJW virtue signalling mess and the only way forward and to say sorry is to go back.

If they don't its over.


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Would he be even willing to come back, as know matt Smith has indicated he might be?


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Quoyle


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I don't know. I suspect he might be willing. Smith was good but he wasn't quite as all out amazing as Ten.

It's Ten I find myself longing to see again. He's like a friend who died. I find myself longing to see him return as the Doctor.

I feel like Eleven is better suited to returning using the time he was on Trenzalore and exploiting a long period of time wherein he could be potentially freed from that prison.


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David Tennant coming back will not solve anything. It's still a show being produced on the BBC's dime and will reflect their policies and agendas.


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